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PostSubject: Re: A Quad that has no orientation issues   A Quad that has no orientation issues - Page 2 EmptyTue Feb 21, 2012 7:13 am

It might seem so Jeff but the centre point is where the board sits so it's balanced perfect really,
Optical illusion on the frame m8. I need some wind free space to dial it all in now and finish a few cosmetic tweaks.
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PostSubject: So far so good   A Quad that has no orientation issues - Page 2 EmptyWed Feb 22, 2012 5:54 am

Build is still going strong and I've added a couple of lights to the rear arms to increase the view from the rear. I still have to make up a lead to move the rx but other than PID tuning its good to go.

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PostSubject: Re: A Quad that has no orientation issues   A Quad that has no orientation issues - Page 2 EmptyWed Feb 22, 2012 9:45 am

very good keith i do like it.so whens the test flight. Cool
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PostSubject: Re: A Quad that has no orientation issues   A Quad that has no orientation issues - Page 2 EmptyWed Feb 22, 2012 10:05 am

If all goes ok weather wise I will go up to Kirky tomorrow for a flight or three
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PostSubject: Re: A Quad that has no orientation issues   A Quad that has no orientation issues - Page 2 EmptyThu Feb 23, 2012 3:38 am

A quick test of new PID settings in acro mode (no autolevel used) to see how it handles.

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PostSubject: Re: A Quad that has no orientation issues   A Quad that has no orientation issues - Page 2 EmptyFri Feb 24, 2012 1:14 am

Soooo after all the begging texts and emails I caved in and decided to go help Keith tune his quad properly , after informing him that he had 2 props on backwards and one of his motors was upside down we got down to the nitty gritty of PID tuning , after 3 hours of heated debate ( if youve ever been in the lab with me and Keith you know exactly what that means ) I finally convinced Keith that the Roll settings were nothing to do with carrying a sandwhich as payload and the pitch settings were nothing to do with the offside rule , very strange atitude towards flight settings......
Well after much debate and a quick wrestle followed by throwing hammers at each other I finally got the quad flying relatively stable, still a lot more work to do but I helped Keith as much as I could without doing EVERYTHING for him.



It must be nice having a friend with soo much knowledge and experience available to help.............

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PostSubject: Re: A Quad that has no orientation issues   A Quad that has no orientation issues - Page 2 EmptyFri Feb 24, 2012 6:11 am

lol! lol!
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PostSubject: Re: A Quad that has no orientation issues   A Quad that has no orientation issues - Page 2 EmptyFri Feb 24, 2012 7:18 am

Scouse you git, its the last time I will tell you how I tune my quads to the high standard you seen last night in the shop, having just come off the phone to you tonight (1200kv talk) I read this feeble attempt at a stitch up lol.
Jeff this story is much longer than you realise m8 I'll explain it when scouse gets his quad flyable lmao.

Good read though..........cheese and pickle rules.
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PostSubject: Re: A Quad that has no orientation issues   A Quad that has no orientation issues - Page 2 EmptyFri Feb 24, 2012 7:30 am

Update........... Finally got around to setting up the ACC today and I've tested out a new method to get it as stable as I could under controlled conditions and its worked better than I could have hoped for, hands free hover in a 6x6 feet space and it never moved more than 12 inches, I'll run the same tests again tomorrow and hopefully catch it on video.
I still have more work to do on the final PID settings but that can wait for the bluetooth unit to arrive so I can set them on the fly with my android phone.

Jeff/Members FYI
I'm doing far more work here than you really need to do to get a good quad, I dont want a good quad I want a super stable one for Camera work.
I dont want to put anyone off here I'm just tweaking and running different settings for my setup.
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PostSubject: Re: A Quad that has no orientation issues   A Quad that has no orientation issues - Page 2 EmptyFri Feb 24, 2012 7:56 am

you should watch the openpilot vids on vimeo

http://vimeo.com/25839978

they are correct
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PostSubject: Re: A Quad that has no orientation issues   A Quad that has no orientation issues - Page 2 EmptyFri Feb 24, 2012 8:14 am

Good find i'll watch it tomorrow when its quiet in here Mad
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PostSubject: Re: A Quad that has no orientation issues   A Quad that has no orientation issues - Page 2 EmptySun Feb 26, 2012 1:55 am

I've added a bluetooth device to the quad so that I can adjust the pid settings from my android phone, this allows me to tweak the settings without having to carry a laptop or netbook with me when i fly. I've just finished running a few tests on the unit and I'm very pleased with the result............This is by far so much easier to use and setup on the fly so to speak.
Below are a couple of screenshots of the app with my settings as they are now.

The app even does the screenshots Laughing

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And heres the unit itself fitted to the quad, its just to the right of the Phone and plugs into the ftdi connector socket.

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PostSubject: Re: A Quad that has no orientation issues   A Quad that has no orientation issues - Page 2 EmptySun Feb 26, 2012 2:03 am

For now I'd call this project complete.......... If your looking to use this frame the cg comes out bang in the centre of the control board mounting area.

Thanks for looking
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PostSubject: Re: A Quad that has no orientation issues   A Quad that has no orientation issues - Page 2 EmptySat Mar 03, 2012 8:32 am

When I said complete...

Ran a few tests tonight with the quad, Initial setup was in acro mode on the Dx6i (plane mode)
I switched the setup to Heli mode tonight and flew it with a smoother throttle curve set, the difference is like night and day for control.
Throttle use on any quad is limited to say the least and you really need to balance the throttle to maintain a steady hover, I set my curve to give a shorter throw around midstick with a 10% difference between 3 and 4 points, this gives me much better throttle control around the mid stick range with power to spare when its needed.
I'll stick with this mode from now on as its easier to setup and gives better control.
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PostSubject: Re: A Quad that has no orientation issues   A Quad that has no orientation issues - Page 2 EmptyMon Mar 05, 2012 1:01 am

Be careful as it also compresses the throttle above and or below those points so increases/decreases in speed are a little faster.
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PostSubject: Re: A Quad that has no orientation issues   A Quad that has no orientation issues - Page 2 EmptyMon Mar 05, 2012 4:54 am

Might seem so scouse but it's far better to fly and easier to maintain altitude with the settings I have now.
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PostSubject: Re: A Quad that has no orientation issues   A Quad that has no orientation issues - Page 2 EmptyMon Mar 05, 2012 11:21 am


THANKS FOR CHATTING TODAY BUD and thanks for the old t choptor ill strip it down for you
and a big thanks for that wing iv put a blue wounder 1700 on it and as soon as the wind gose away ill give it a go thanks bud
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PostSubject: Re: A Quad that has no orientation issues   A Quad that has no orientation issues - Page 2 EmptyTue Mar 06, 2012 7:35 am

No problem m8
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PostSubject: Re: A Quad that has no orientation issues   A Quad that has no orientation issues - Page 2 EmptyWed Mar 07, 2012 2:50 pm

took the wing out today what a night mare lol i just can not stop it from pushing its nose up in the air ?
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PostSubject: Re: A Quad that has no orientation issues   A Quad that has no orientation issues - Page 2 EmptyThu Mar 08, 2012 9:36 am

Adjust the motor so it's pointing down bud that will sort it out . Try level first though then adjust from there
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wii do bud
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