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madjeff Group Captin
Posts : 1179 Reputation : 36 Join date : 2010-11-09 Age : 52 Location : stockton on tees
| Subject: motor mount thrust line Sat Jun 11, 2011 6:22 am | |
| well on the success of my mustang i do have a question for you boffins. i no 90% of my planes have it but wot does it do. right thrust wot does it do down thrust wot does it do. | |
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Keith Forum Admin
Posts : 1168 Reputation : 27 Join date : 2010-11-07 Age : 54 Location : Redcar
| Subject: Re: motor mount thrust line Sat Jun 11, 2011 10:32 am | |
| One takes out the torque roll effect you would get, the other eliminates the plane wanting to climb when you apply more power. guess which is which?
If your plane still climbs when you throttle up jeff what would you do to counter that force?
He he back to school... | |
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madjeff Group Captin
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| Subject: Re: motor mount thrust line Sat Jun 11, 2011 10:40 am | |
| ha-ha funny lol. well i would say if the plane is climbing then i need to angle the motor more down and in going faster if it keeps rolling on its axis i need to increase the right thrust i think. lol. | |
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Keith Forum Admin
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| Subject: Re: motor mount thrust line Sat Jun 11, 2011 10:42 am | |
| Your spot on m8, its not rocket science jeff we leave that for the wii setups lol | |
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madjeff Group Captin
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| Subject: Re: motor mount thrust line Sat Jun 11, 2011 10:49 am | |
| so this has me thinking on the axn.when i apply power it drops its nose to the floor , i no this is a pusher and its all reversed but does the motor need to be increased or decreased.or as the pod is hi up and a fer way down the fuzz,there is not much i can do. | |
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Keith Forum Admin
Posts : 1168 Reputation : 27 Join date : 2010-11-07 Age : 54 Location : Redcar
| Subject: Re: motor mount thrust line Sat Jun 11, 2011 10:55 am | |
| Yes there is something you can do jeff, Think about it, look at the axn from the side and draw a line through your motor ( use the motor shaft and extend it through the body) if you apply throttle it will push along this line using a downward force.
From your post it appears that your motor angle is a little too low as its pushing the nose down you can pack out the base of the motor with anything you have to hand to get the correct thrust angle.
Its difficult to write it here but i think you get the point?
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madjeff Group Captin
Posts : 1179 Reputation : 36 Join date : 2010-11-09 Age : 52 Location : stockton on tees
| Subject: Re: motor mount thrust line Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:11 am | |
| so my thinking was right,just wonted to confirm i was on the right wave length lol. thanks for the easy understanding of it all.on the mustang i must of hit it right by the luck of the draw .i just packed it out till i could see it was right and down.if its 1,2 or 3degreess i have no idea lol. | |
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Paul L Wing Commander
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| Subject: Re: motor mount thrust line Sat Jun 11, 2011 5:14 pm | |
| Teaser for you Jeff. On your Mustang foamy what effect will motor down thrust have during sustained and level inverted flight ? | |
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Keith Forum Admin
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| Subject: Re: motor mount thrust line Sat Jun 11, 2011 6:02 pm | |
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madjeff Group Captin
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| Subject: Re: motor mount thrust line Sat Jun 11, 2011 6:48 pm | |
| - Paul L wrote:
- Teaser for you Jeff.
On your Mustang foamy what effect will motor down thrust have during sustained and level inverted flight ?
trivia time is it lol. well i would say nothing.if it flys level right way up and trimmed out well,then inverted should be the same. can i have the answer on a post card please lol. | |
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Paul L Wing Commander
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| Subject: Re: motor mount thrust line Sat Jun 11, 2011 7:15 pm | |
| You don't sound sure.....
Lets make it an open question anyone else care to comment ? | |
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Paul L Wing Commander
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| Subject: Re: motor mount thrust line Sun Jun 12, 2011 7:22 pm | |
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Keith Forum Admin
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| Subject: Re: motor mount thrust line Sun Jun 12, 2011 10:10 pm | |
| I could but I'll wait for others to give there opinions. | |
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Paul L Wing Commander
Posts : 531 Reputation : 17 Join date : 2010-11-07 Location : This ain't Hell, but you can see it from here
| Subject: Re: motor mount thrust line Sun Jun 12, 2011 10:14 pm | |
| You need to bring the Quad to the field A few of us are risking the imminent rain I'll be there around 1PM | |
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Paul L Wing Commander
Posts : 531 Reputation : 17 Join date : 2010-11-07 Location : This ain't Hell, but you can see it from here
| Subject: Re: motor mount thrust line Sun Jun 19, 2011 8:20 am | |
| [quote="Keith"]I could but I'll wait for others to give there opinions. [/quote] No others are playing Back to Jeff's question Down thrust while inverted will have the opposite effect it's now [b]up thrust [/b] Basically it will cause More elevator input to be required for inverted flight. It will also play havoc with Rolls, they will not be axial at all, without Lots of Elevator correction needed by the Pilot. The main wing Angle of Incidence (AOI) will also play a part in these effects A Positive AOI as in Jeff's Mustang foamy will be a Negative AOI when Inverted, therefore to bring the plane level will require more Down elevator to fly. This is the reason you will see Acro Planes usually are said to be Zero, Zero setting Zero motor Down thrust Zero wing Angle Of Attack It means less elevator correction is needed while inverted and more axial rolls with less Pilot input. -------------------------------------- Side thrust compensates for motor Torque therefore it does not matter whether the aircraft is inverted or upright. It purely compensates for the Motor Power, once set correctly Upright and Inverted is compensated. Paul | |
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