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PostSubject: A Quad that has no orientation issues   Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:12 am

I've been looking around for a quad design to switch my existing board to and I came across this one, for 25 quid delivered it comes with everything you need to get the frame together Imo its a steal and I'm looking forward to getting this one in the air.










Should be a good flyer as so far it weighs nothing but I'm sure that will change when its loaded up with the electronics.
I'll update the thread when the motors arrive, the rest I already have.

(Justin this is the one i was talking about on saturday)
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PostSubject: Re: A Quad that has no orientation issues   Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:56 am

Jussi sheild multiwii control board fitted and it could not have fit any better Wink



The little red circuit board on the left is the adxl345 acc for Autolevel control.
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PostSubject: Re: A Quad that has no orientation issues   Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:02 am

To give you idea of how these fly and look in the air this is the closest I could find.



This guy using the same power setup I have for mine.
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PostSubject: Re: A Quad that has no orientation issues   Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:16 am

Looks smart m8
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PostSubject: Re: A Quad that has no orientation issues   Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:01 pm

Laughing it was lookey i showd you them ketih Very Happy i told you thay look good just a pittey i cannot use them for my gear
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PostSubject: Re: A Quad that has no orientation issues   Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:16 pm

that does look like a good quad frame keith.
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PostSubject: Re: A Quad that has no orientation issues   Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:20 am

It's coming along very nicely Jeff, look at the frame top view you can see where the esc's are going to be mounted, looks like they actually thought this one through but time will tell.
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PostSubject: Re: A Quad that has no orientation issues   Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:59 pm

Motors have gone awol in the post so I ordered others and the build continues, it a squeeze getting four esc's in this frame but it's getting there, I'll throw up a few pics later when they are all in.
This quad is looking really sweet and very stream lined.
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PostSubject: Re: A Quad that has no orientation issues   Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:52 pm

lol! every thing gose awol in the post lol!
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PostSubject: Re: A Quad that has no orientation issues   Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:20 pm

Very Happy Thanks Keith for popping up to see me yesterday it was nice to see you and I must say the quad you are making will look good Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: A Quad that has no orientation issues   Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:54 pm

The motors are in and the main wiring is now done there's a few more hours on setting this up and it will be ready to test fly. The new sketch is configured for the quad X and its uploaded to the Arduino board. I ran a few tests in the GUI and so far its showing everything running perfect on standard settings, the settings will be fine tuned when its all finished to get it flying as stable as possible.
Images show setup so far, I will be moving the RX to fit inbetween the frame under the wii control board to keep it out of harms way if it flips over.

Motors look sweet with no wiring on show.


The 12 amp esc's are more than enough for these 1200kv motors, they do look good too.


As I said in the title of this thread Orientation should not be an issue, the next 2 images should show this.




I still have a few tricks to add to this Quad, I'll update this thread with the progress and hopefully a maiden video.


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PostSubject: Re: A Quad that has no orientation issues   Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:26 am

Very Happy looking good bud
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PostSubject: Re: A Quad that has no orientation issues   Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:29 am

I have a new toy to play with for setting up planes or quads and even helis, it should smooth things out and make it perform even better, I'll do a video on testing and see how it goes.
Keep an eye on this one Jeff your gonna love it Wink
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PostSubject: Re: A Quad that has no orientation issues   Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:04 am

After a few hours tweaking the settings a quick test flight to make sure it
actually gets off the floor, all is good and It flys.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/31266615@N03/6910866571/" title="Flickr_2012_02_20_05_35_33.jpg by kf52t, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7051/6910866571_ec63066fa4.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="Flickr_2012_02_20_05_35_33.jpg"></a>


Now for the serious setting up to refine the controls and overhaul stability.
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PostSubject: Re: A Quad that has no orientation issues   Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:06 am

that does look cool Keith. will it not be tail heavy with the booms out so far from the frame.
or will the lipo of set it.
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PostSubject: Re: A Quad that has no orientation issues   Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:13 am

It might seem so Jeff but the centre point is where the board sits so it's balanced perfect really,
Optical illusion on the frame m8. I need some wind free space to dial it all in now and finish a few cosmetic tweaks.
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PostSubject: So far so good   Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:54 am

Build is still going strong and I've added a couple of lights to the rear arms to increase the view from the rear. I still have to make up a lead to move the rx but other than PID tuning its good to go.

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PostSubject: Re: A Quad that has no orientation issues   Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:45 am

very good keith i do like it.so whens the test flight. Cool
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PostSubject: Re: A Quad that has no orientation issues   Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:05 am

If all goes ok weather wise I will go up to Kirky tomorrow for a flight or three
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PostSubject: Re: A Quad that has no orientation issues   Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:38 am

A quick test of new PID settings in acro mode (no autolevel used) to see how it handles.

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PostSubject: Re: A Quad that has no orientation issues   Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:14 am

Soooo after all the begging texts and emails I caved in and decided to go help Keith tune his quad properly , after informing him that he had 2 props on backwards and one of his motors was upside down we got down to the nitty gritty of PID tuning , after 3 hours of heated debate ( if youve ever been in the lab with me and Keith you know exactly what that means ) I finally convinced Keith that the Roll settings were nothing to do with carrying a sandwhich as payload and the pitch settings were nothing to do with the offside rule , very strange atitude towards flight settings......
Well after much debate and a quick wrestle followed by throwing hammers at each other I finally got the quad flying relatively stable, still a lot more work to do but I helped Keith as much as I could without doing EVERYTHING for him.



It must be nice having a friend with soo much knowledge and experience available to help.............

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PostSubject: Re: A Quad that has no orientation issues   Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:11 am

lol! lol!
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PostSubject: Re: A Quad that has no orientation issues   Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:18 am

Scouse you git, its the last time I will tell you how I tune my quads to the high standard you seen last night in the shop, having just come off the phone to you tonight (1200kv talk) I read this feeble attempt at a stitch up lol.
Jeff this story is much longer than you realise m8 I'll explain it when scouse gets his quad flyable lmao.

Good read though..........cheese and pickle rules.
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PostSubject: Re: A Quad that has no orientation issues   Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:30 am

Update........... Finally got around to setting up the ACC today and I've tested out a new method to get it as stable as I could under controlled conditions and its worked better than I could have hoped for, hands free hover in a 6x6 feet space and it never moved more than 12 inches, I'll run the same tests again tomorrow and hopefully catch it on video.
I still have more work to do on the final PID settings but that can wait for the bluetooth unit to arrive so I can set them on the fly with my android phone.

Jeff/Members FYI
I'm doing far more work here than you really need to do to get a good quad, I dont want a good quad I want a super stable one for Camera work.
I dont want to put anyone off here I'm just tweaking and running different settings for my setup.
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PostSubject: Re: A Quad that has no orientation issues   Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:56 am

you should watch the openpilot vids on vimeo

http://vimeo.com/25839978

they are correct
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